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Onderwerp: Is this fair play or not? Please be careful in the future.
While it is understandable that the act of deception is seen as reprehensible and one's initial reaction may be to call for extreme punishment, such as a ban from the game, we need to take into account the nature of the marketplace and the personal responsibility of the players.
1. **Part of business:** In a real-world market, there's always some element of risk and ambiguity. A seller's primary goal is to make their product or service as appealing as possible to potential buyers, and buyers are expected to do their due diligence before making a purchase. This dynamic is not inherently dishonest, but a part of the natural negotiation and transaction process. It should be noted, however, that this doesn't mean all types of deception are acceptable.
2. **Buyer's responsibility:** In the game, buyers have access to the skills of the players being sold and can request additional information. They are under no obligation to make a purchase without being satisfied with the information provided. It's part of their responsibility to scrutinize the data, such as screenshots, and to ask whether they are legitimate.
3. **Tools for verification:** The game (Mikoos Tool and others) provides powerful tools that can verify the contents of a screenshot. If a buyer chooses not to use these tools and to take the seller's information at face value, they are willingly accepting a certain level of risk. This doesn't excuse dishonest sellers, but it highlights the importance of informed decision-making on the buyer's part.
4. **Social regulation:** Instead of outright banning players, a more balanced approach could be to create a platform within the game's community for players to share their experiences and to call out those who are known for providing false information. This could serve as a form of "social regulation" that discourages dishonest behavior without requiring strict enforcement by the game's administrators.
5. **It's a game:** Lastly, let's not forget that this is a game. While we should strive for fair play and honesty, there's also a need for a reasonable level of competitive spirit and strategy. As long as it doesn't cross into the territory of explicit cheating, some level of deception can be seen as part of the game's strategy and complexity.
While maintaining a high level of ethical standards in gameplay is crucial, extreme measures such as bans may not always be the best solution. Education, empowerment of the players through tools and knowledge, and fostering a community of shared responsibility may prove more effective in the long run.
1. **Part of business:** In a real-world market, there's always some element of risk and ambiguity. A seller's primary goal is to make their product or service as appealing as possible to potential buyers, and buyers are expected to do their due diligence before making a purchase. This dynamic is not inherently dishonest, but a part of the natural negotiation and transaction process. It should be noted, however, that this doesn't mean all types of deception are acceptable.
2. **Buyer's responsibility:** In the game, buyers have access to the skills of the players being sold and can request additional information. They are under no obligation to make a purchase without being satisfied with the information provided. It's part of their responsibility to scrutinize the data, such as screenshots, and to ask whether they are legitimate.
3. **Tools for verification:** The game (Mikoos Tool and others) provides powerful tools that can verify the contents of a screenshot. If a buyer chooses not to use these tools and to take the seller's information at face value, they are willingly accepting a certain level of risk. This doesn't excuse dishonest sellers, but it highlights the importance of informed decision-making on the buyer's part.
4. **Social regulation:** Instead of outright banning players, a more balanced approach could be to create a platform within the game's community for players to share their experiences and to call out those who are known for providing false information. This could serve as a form of "social regulation" that discourages dishonest behavior without requiring strict enforcement by the game's administrators.
5. **It's a game:** Lastly, let's not forget that this is a game. While we should strive for fair play and honesty, there's also a need for a reasonable level of competitive spirit and strategy. As long as it doesn't cross into the territory of explicit cheating, some level of deception can be seen as part of the game's strategy and complexity.
While maintaining a high level of ethical standards in gameplay is crucial, extreme measures such as bans may not always be the best solution. Education, empowerment of the players through tools and knowledge, and fostering a community of shared responsibility may prove more effective in the long run.
Very eloquent.
1. Really just what juytt said: "Scams are part of business" :p
2. See 1
3. Tools that aren't part of the official game and only known by the select few shouldn't be used as an excuse here imo
4. Yeah, that's called Forum :D I can't imagine scammers care much about their reputation on Forum though
5. See 1
Honestly speaking, however, I would just like an easier in-game method to display my player's progress than having to resort to the tiresome screenshot-upload-link procedure. The anti-scam side effect is just a bonus ;o)
1. Really just what juytt said: "Scams are part of business" :p
2. See 1
3. Tools that aren't part of the official game and only known by the select few shouldn't be used as an excuse here imo
4. Yeah, that's called Forum :D I can't imagine scammers care much about their reputation on Forum though
5. See 1
Honestly speaking, however, I would just like an easier in-game method to display my player's progress than having to resort to the tiresome screenshot-upload-link procedure. The anti-scam side effect is just a bonus ;o)
1.Firstly Sokker isn’t a real business. It’s only the game, as you correct mentioned in your point 5. In real life if you have been scammed you can go to justice and show your evidences and you have a chance for a fair verdict. So in this case we have clearly evidences but the scamer is unpunished.
2. What you wrote doesn’t matter in this situation. User Duffy78 misled every bidder by obtaining an inflated sale price. He acts fully consciously and with premeditation. I hope user Duffy78 is not your friend - becouse it seems to me that you are tying to dilute a part of the seller’s guilt to transfer of it to the buyer.
3. No, you haven’t right. Please look at my point 2. I can just add that the buyer does not need to know any additional tools. The Mikoos tool is real fantastic, but it's not an official sokker's tool and no one is obligated to know these tools, so it's not an excuse for that situation.
4. In my opinion scammers (I consider user Duffy78 a cheater) should be severely punished or completely removed from the game. Social regulation sounds like some kind of joke :)
5. Yes it’s a game and using fake graph is explicit cheating so please look at my point 4
2. What you wrote doesn’t matter in this situation. User Duffy78 misled every bidder by obtaining an inflated sale price. He acts fully consciously and with premeditation. I hope user Duffy78 is not your friend - becouse it seems to me that you are tying to dilute a part of the seller’s guilt to transfer of it to the buyer.
3. No, you haven’t right. Please look at my point 2. I can just add that the buyer does not need to know any additional tools. The Mikoos tool is real fantastic, but it's not an official sokker's tool and no one is obligated to know these tools, so it's not an excuse for that situation.
4. In my opinion scammers (I consider user Duffy78 a cheater) should be severely punished or completely removed from the game. Social regulation sounds like some kind of joke :)
5. Yes it’s a game and using fake graph is explicit cheating so please look at my point 4
Cheating = ban as easy as that what are we discussing here
Giving not full info is also like cheating...
in his note iyi insan olmak lazım calls this "1 WEEKS TO GOOD TECNIQUE"
and he is a tutor... omg
in his note iyi insan olmak lazım calls this "1 WEEKS TO GOOD TECNIQUE"
and he is a tutor... omg
LoL. Check player profile page . i put all training history everyone can see.
Before I asked you there was only one screen showing pace pop after 3
This is NOT a pop to technique after 1
either you know it and you just lie to get more money or you don't even know it
in both cases you shouldn't be a tutor
This is NOT a pop to technique after 1
either you know it and you just lie to get more money or you don't even know it
in both cases you shouldn't be a tutor
You are a self-righteous person. Everyone is wrong here, you are the only one right. please don't talk to me. I'm sick of your arrogant words. There is no one left in the forum that you do not discuss
Well, you have full training history so it's not that bad.
Calling this pop "1 week to good technique" is only unprofessional sokker language and definetely not cheating.
Without full history I would call this providing false information.
Calling this pop "1 week to good technique" is only unprofessional sokker language and definetely not cheating.
Without full history I would call this providing false information.
Wait for others, you will see.
Either you are lying for money or you have no idea about this game and got a tutor star for I don't know what.
This is not "1 week pop in technique".
It's not even 1+4 general pop, because it's the ONLY pop in tech he had at your team, it shows NOTHING\
He can have a poor talent, like 3 to good technique.
Either you are lying for money or you have no idea about this game and got a tutor star for I don't know what.
This is not "1 week pop in technique".
It's not even 1+4 general pop, because it's the ONLY pop in tech he had at your team, it shows NOTHING\
He can have a poor talent, like 3 to good technique.