Onderwerp: NEWS Sokker- big changes are coming!

Maybe I'm missing something here, but don't most of your older players already play in more than 1 match each week, given that they are probably your best skilled players?

No, in topdivision you need around 18 older players to win.
And this change is no way a good thing for being competitive anyway.

Sokker is getting less competitive with almost every update:
- higher salary.
- higher tax selling older players.
- players are getting older faster with 13 weeks instead of 16.
- older players ( from 23y)do train slower than before.
- no training in NT friendlies for older players.
etc etc

Ok, 1 positive change now, trainees will get 96% training more easy, but directly sokker kills it with less training for older players.

Please speak to the experienced users first before doing something without overthinking.
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Yeah, it's really annoying that they manage to twist even good, positive ideas so that they end up negatively.

It also doesn't make sense that you will be able to train 16-17yos for 96% in friendlies, but 18-20yos will still need to play in league games to get 96%. I mean what's the point of that... if you want to make playing competitively better/easier (with possibility to train properly youngsters) then just go all the way and make it 96% for 16-20yos... and make 21-22yos need to play like 20 minutes weekly to get to 96%.

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I went for the 7 year payment method which offered the biggest discount and I hope that
the devs use that money to have some beers instead of further "improving" the game.

I was in the top division not so much time, but I had good substitution only one defender. I had never got striker or goalkeeper sub. or good midfielder sub, because I train 2 generations at mid position.
It always bring the money or waste time on the bench, but tell the truth I never won anything as I am a poor club, I had only one time a good team. So poor clubs like me haven't quality subs...If someone injuered I tried buy somone from the market fast, after the player recover, I sell the subs.

Subs players only waste of money as sit on the bench in my point of view. I am really lucky with the injuries mostly.

7 or 8 times I was 1st in top division and had even more 2nd places.
To reach this you need 18 players, you can't be lucky for so many seasons with injuries and suspended players.
I want to be competitive every season.
Sokker promised to make it more easy to be competitive, but as I said they broke their promise.
Nice changes but nor for being competitive.
Even now with trainees ( as borkos said) they fail with the older players.

Sorry, but dont make promises if you cant keep it.
This game is more and more a trainee game for corner tactics.
So forced relegation and corner tactics it is, I accept.
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Geston wrote something like this:
16-17 yo train after 1 friendly for 96%
18 yo needs 10 min extra in official game to reach 96%
19 yo needs 15 min extra in official game to reach 96%
and so on.
Older players will need more playing time to reach 96% training. It will start being noticeable at 32+ years.


This should be until 20 yeras 96% on friendly..

Why making a change but not at all?

Don't agree with that! Hope they take the chance

Yes, it must be 96% untill 20/21y and no lost of training for older players.
Than finally there is something that makes the game more competitive.

But, I am very afraid sokker will not listen again, sorry.
I am a positive guy, but after all those non competitive changes I lost that.
I am very disappointed.

But still after this sokker will be the best game for me.
So we could have had so much more.
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I am really wondering how you managed it so far, that all your 33 players received 96% training in a week - seriously.
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What has this to do with my point?

With 33 players it is anyhow a challenge to give all players enough minutes. I do not understand why such a change should now be more challenging for you. You would anyhow focus on the best older players in official games. Now you don't even need to compromise your setup with trainees. That will highly increase you competitiveness.


And it will be much much easier for you to give your trainees full training, You have a balanced squad, so you profit from noth aspects.

In my case: I have 5 old players and 10 trainees.

For me this change would not deliver a positve effect: I anyway need to let my trainees play in officials as I cannot afford wages for more older players.
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I have 32 players and this will go to 30 soon.
Some of the older players are for injuries and suspensions, last season I used them all.
With less training for them in those games they will drop faster.

Yes, 96% for trainees is better of course, but drops for older ones is not.
So it is even and not better.
Next to that, my trainees are not 16/17y so It wont help a lot for me.
I need some older for cup, so cant be competitive there anymore also if I want to have benefits.
No, no and no, sokker is less competitive every season.
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I cannot follow you. Either they are subs and don't play (getting 0% training) or they play. In latter case they now receive 96% in official or even less in friendlies. In the future, it will then be maybe 80% (?)

So what? Skill decline can anyway not well be infkuenced by formation training.

Yes it can.
Certainly in pace from 28y.
And 80% is less than 96%, so less competitive and certainly not more competitive.

So show me, where is the benefit for me for older players in the new situation?
They should skip that to make this change realy a competitive one.
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The only thing, I am really concerned about is that we only have 3 slot for substitution.

If all my trainees (all 18y and older) play in friendly, I won't be able to give them enough minutes for full training