Onderwerp: Bargain / Robbed topic 2.0

Can play as an offensive MID, just behind the ATT :)
Have lots of experience with this kind of players.
Next to that, can still be trained at striker, passing or def :)

But what about the price?

I'd say rather robbed... but that's because I don't see a point in having universal but not really good for any position players

too low pm/passing for a mid, not enough defender for a def, not enough tech/striker for an att... can play everywhere but nowhere at good level and is too old to get really "specialised" at decent level, halfway to 27 already

For that range of price you could've got this season, with same age:

ATT:
17-15-15: 5.5m euro
16-16-16: 8m euro

MID:

8m euro:
16 10
15 16
16

5.5m euro:
15 12
15 14
14

I'd rather get one of those

Thanks for the reply.

I dont think you do a lot with tactics?
Maybe you do, but than I dont understand your reply.
I think you cant compare with normal ATTs.
Side skills are so important for an offensive mid or att.
Next to that, this is absolutely no normal MID, so you cant compare with that also.

This one will play behind the ATTs and will be very usefull there.
A real number 10, in Dutch we say schaduwspits.
I dont know an English word for this, but if we will translate it would be a shadow striker.
My tip for you is to think more out of the box.
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The idea is very good, I would also like to use a 10, but in Sokker it is very difficult to make it work.

I like to have challenges :)
The tactic editor is such a beautiful thing with so many possibilities.
I am sure this player will be very usefull, I like to think in possibilities instead of impossibilities as Borkos does in my opinion.
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I dont think you do a lot with tactics?

of course, I never do tactics, no clue about them :))

I think you cant compare with normal ATTs.
Side skills are so important for an offensive mid or att.

you ever had one...?
because I had one of the best off mids/ATTs in history
3x superdivine + magical playmaker and passing
he was created EXACTLY to look like this and be an extraordinary ATT able to play as 2nd ATT, wide ATT, wing ATT etc.

and I have seen in practice that there was NO SENSE in using him as a 10 because this position doesn't work in sokker, it's wasting player's potential
the only way it works is to use such player as normal striker or as wide striker/a player moving between wing and striker - this works well

but secondaries are NOT that much important, they definitely are NOT more important than having top main skills... and incredible level is nothing special for secondaries to consider such player for something more in tactics

I think you are talking about an idea that you don't really know from practice and sokker reality, based on how things work in real life
yes in real life you have "10s" but you don't have "10s" in this game, because they don't work because of match engine.

why do you think nobody uses offensive midfielders in top teams or in National Teams? because you're the only one who "does a lot with tactics" and came up with this idea? :))

there are much, much better players, like 4x divine + brilliant striker or 3x 17+ strikers with 14+ secondaries, that are being used just as ATTs or Wings...because that's simply much more efficient...

going back to your player...
you have a 10 who can't pass well, can't playmake well and can't finish well... so what is he supposed to do on the pitch?
too low playmaker to make a decision good & fast enough for centre of pitch
too low striker to score at high level

even his pace & technique are too low to dribble through opponnents, not good enough for a wide winger, let alone for a player in centre of pitch...

this is a player that will do nothing well, useless at higher level, it's better to have a "normal" cheaper player that will actually do something right on the pitch
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crazy price... youths are so expensive and old players are cheap.

Thanks!

and I have seen in practice that there was NO SENSE in using him as a 10 because this position doesn't work in sokker, it's wasting player's potential

As I said, you think in impossibilities only.
That is your opinion, not mine.
Using capitals does not mean you are right.
And yes, I had good experience in the past with a 10.

I'm not thinking in impossibilities, I actually tested all there was to test here. Including 10s, wing-strikers, double wingers, wingbacks, half-wingers, side defenders going to central midfield, even defenders going to penalty area for a corner.

I believe in practice not theories. Number 10 doesn't work because of the engine. He will always be destroyed by every high def line or a low defensive midfielder.

And this kind of player that you have won't work well in any position at high level. It's not about believing or not, it's about what I have already tested or experienced in this game.

Nobody uses 10s for a reason.

As I said, everybody has the right to have his own opinion.
I do think it works and you think it doesnt work.
So we dont have to discuss anymore :)

Maybe an arcade will solve doubts xd

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Anyway It's a MID, IMO that's why sumskills or sub-position is not important in that case (for prices, i mean). So basically, we dont have to count striker skills, and your price seems just ok.

Suggested 6.3m€ (min:5.0m€ max:6.7m€) Sktables price
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I understand as price.
For me, with outstanding striker, he can be used as a 10 ( ATT).
He will score almost every game, I will show :)
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Sure. But whatever he score or not it will not change its price :-)