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2023-10-05 01:09:01
God bless u :(
2023-10-06 14:52:27
interesting, do You have all stats about expectations and fulfilling state from PL leagues? is it an extreme case or pretty popular?

I wonder if lowest expectation and total failure is also possible, but probably is


Do we know how sokker creates expectations for our teams?
2023-10-06 17:57:38
I cant tell you exactly how, because I don't know, but it is surely based on avg seasonal team ratings from the predecessing season, club budget, league level and probably some more parameters, and all in context of league rivals.
2023-10-07 00:02:53
Budget must play a major role, because I'm relatively broke and it thinks my team just surviving would be great success.

Meanwhile in reality, I'm a lock for top 3. If I don't promote, I'll be disappointed in myself
2023-10-07 19:14:47
You can look at my league. I'll just copy last 4 places by supporters expectations

Avoiding direct relegation great success FC Mangol
Avoiding direct relegation great success Wisła Stoki - main contended for first palce
Avoiding direct relegation great success HimNae
Brave fight for any points below expectations KS Mazur Olecko

And top 4 teams by avg player mark:


Average individual marks this week:
65.1 Wisła Stoki
61.6 FC Mangol
60.3 WIDZEW_ŁÓDŹ
60.0 F.C. Tuchola Rangers

My budget is around 3-3,5M $ since start of this season ;)
2023-10-08 04:43:13
But is that a lot relative to the rest of your league, though?

Other than the B league promotees, I would wager every team has more standing cash than I have. Way more.

I've been around for like ..8 months now? Much of my money has been dumped into stadium - which pays off long term, but not initially. Roofing isn't cheap!
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2023-10-08 10:59:09
I cant tell you exactly how, because I don't know, but it is surely based on avg seasonal team ratings from the predecessing season, club budget, league level and probably some more parameters, and all in context of league rivals.

Sure, I get that. Everything in this game works in a similar fashion.

But, there are clubs with average teams who finished like 7th or 8th in past two seasons and league expect them to finish top 3. Or clubs with young players who just got promoted are expected to be top half etc.

That is the part that I don't get.

Example: Prva Liga Srbije
2023-10-08 11:02:06
I just ran through Archive and look at first rounds. Those teams were winning, so the expectation is kinda based on teams' current results and it changes week to week.. OK, let's follow that trend.
2023-10-08 12:21:55
The expectations don't change week to week, they are set for whole season.

It's mostly about money on the account, 1 euro on account is worth much more than 1 euro spent for player.

It probably takes into account average note for last season etc. but money is most important. I was one of worst teams in ratings last season, I'm one of worst this season and the game still expects me to easily win the league.

Championship total failure The Evil`s
Championship total failure Laguna Adamów

Championship total failure dlakasperka
Top half of the table above expectations Legia Warszawa
Top half of the table below expectations GB Packers
Top half of the table goal achieved RTS JUVE
Top half of the table below expectations LKS Zatory
Top half of the table below expectations KS ZOPOCIE DW
Top half of the table above expectations Hellboys
Top half of the table above expectations KS Przymorze Wielkie
Avoiding direct relegation great success AKS Akacjowa
Avoiding direct relegation great success Pride Troopers

68.3 Hellboys
67.4 KS Przymorze Wielkie
64.7 Pride Troopers
64.6 LKS Zatory
63.4 AKS Akacjowa
62.2 dlakasperka
61.4 GB Packers
61.3 Legia Warszawa
60.0 Laguna Adamów
57.7 The Evil`s


It's not a system created to be logical or to bring anything positive into the game

It's a system that was created only to hurt people who have money and make them spend it :) obviously it won't work, nobody will give a fuck about this, but it's sad that with their limited time and resources they decided to spend it to make playing experience worse instead of concentrating on adding something positive to the game
2023-10-08 12:49:25
At least it can be easily ignored, since it's another one of these hidden features with no direct in-game link.
2023-10-08 13:11:47
Well it is linked, if you don't fulfil the expectations, then your fan mood for whole next season will be negatively affected
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2023-10-08 13:40:05
Yeah I know. I probably worded it wrong - what I meant is that there's no clickable link to the expectations overview anywhere :o) Coupled with the fact that DD 73 has only reached the users who read intenational forum, I suspect a lot of users don't have a clue that this new feature is coming next season.

It also seems broken. I checked some local leagues, and some of the expectations lists only have 10 or 11 teams in them.
2023-10-08 14:06:40
I must say that the expectations ARE weekly altered...
Check the stats of your league and see on top the sentence ...expectations "this week"
2023-10-08 14:11:01
Dtox9 naar Dtox9
I must say that the expectations ARE weekly altered...
Check the stats of your league and see on top the sentence ...expectations "this week"

Then again...the expectations stand under average individual marks this week...
Dunno why though.
But thing is that the league position is looked at each week and then the expextations are evaluated by total failure...great succes or any stat in between.
2023-10-08 14:12:50
mangol naar Dtox9
We have biweekly update of how teams are in par with supporters expectations. On my league forum I pasted expectation once they were created and non of them changed - in my case supporters still expect me to be 9th strongest team in league and to avoid direct relegation.

Top of the sentence state Average individual marks this week:, which is a reuse of previously created stat ;)
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2023-10-08 14:15:53
Dtox9 naar mangol
Yes...I also stated that. For a bizarre reason the first part was sent prior to the full post.
Smartphone use of sokker still feels like playing playstation while playing twister :-p