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I made longer name, for better search.....

So what do you think can be the best ideologies?
Maybe we should think out something new ?

We have more ideologies but none is good for everybody. People sometimes says that capitalism or democracy are not the best theories but all others are just worse. I agree.

@Rubinho

Thinking communism can work is an illusion.

Yes, I agree :-). It is based on unreal premises. People are not equal, people like competition and like to have more power than others :-) We are like animals, stronger eat weaker.

My ideologies:
- Communism cannot work, capitalism is the only way. However, not the extreme capitalism which is inhumane.
- Progressivism has made the minds of the people more developed, but I consider myself moderate conservative.
- Democracy is a bad system, but it is by far the the best of the bad systems.
- Nationalism can be a good thing, it can be a way of bounding people, as long as it is peaceful and it follows the rules of democracy (not a big fan of revolutions). I'm a 'fan' of a strong Europe of nations, but at the moment, Europe isn't strong at all. And countries like Spain, UK or Belgium aren't nations (as Catalans, Basks, Scots, Flemings, Walloons, ... are nations within those countries), so I think they'll disappear in their current form. They don't have to (if the people don't want to, that's their choice), but I think they will.
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Indeed. Communism is based on the thought that one can suppress the thoughts of people, that one can impose a system to the people. That might be possible on the short term (see Eastern Europe), but in the long term, it is impossible.

Well. If you opinion is this statement:
We are like animals, stronger eat weaker.
then capitalism is really the best one for you.

My opinion is that the evolution distinguish us from the animals. We are still close to them. But we can do better. We need to make another step in evolution.

And most of us do not know but:
1. Our economy system is not capitalism but corporate capitalism
2. Our political system is not democracy but oligarchy.

Just to correct you opinion and the opinion of most of the people.
In Eastern Europe there was no communism at all. There was only Totalitarianism.

Of course it was totalitarianism. That is what communism leads to. See the history of human race.

Communism is just not compatible with freedom and democracy.

Well i disagree.
Human mind is what leeds to totalitarianism. Not communism.

My ideologies:
- Communism

and there I stop reading,
you're not thinking by your own,

By the way, is funny how much people think to have his own ideas but at a close look..
first you decide to give a name to a box you want to want to use for what you like-dislike (communism, democracy,nationalism for example this time) then you fill it with what you prefer.. the best/wost things ever..
I can make exactly the same statement with every other word and be faithful that "this is my opinion, bro, just respetct it"
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...so communism practised by human beings leads to totalitarianism. Do you personally know any alien interested in communism? .)
It is quite dangerous to say that idea is good but people are bad (so kill those wrong ones and enjoy heaven)

(I will expand my opinion later; don´t have enough time to do it know)
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Well. If you opinion is this statement:
We are like animals, stronger eat weaker.
then capitalism is really the best one for you.

It is not my goal, it is just sad reality. We all want that statement would not be true, but it is just dream :-(

And most of us do not know but:
1. Our economy system is not capitalism but corporate capitalism
2. Our political system is not democracy but oligarchy.

Yes, I agree. Sad true about current system and reason why that system can not work (it just works better than the other systems)

I agree again... that is same as my "pure communism" and "communism which we had".
But that pure one is not real BlueZero :-), based on bad predictions. People never be equal and they will never want to be.

Okay then the other type o my argument is:

Capitalism leads to:
1. Inhumanity.
2. War for resources.
3. High crime rate.
4. Big wealth differences (poor people - rich people)
5. Very low chance to equal starting opportunities (if you are born in africa, then you just have bad luck, right?)
and so on...

I know its not pure and it will not be. Communism is not my ideology. But i am surely closer to that than capitalism.
I compare capitalism to Hyaena - ergo - Hyaenism
But yes, thats whats our nature. Or better say, of most of us.

Edit:
I must add one thing. I should be really enjoying capitalism. A am pretty good in what i am doing, so i am earning quite enough to have a fairly good life. But the thing is, that i feel bad when i see those people arround me. All they want is just everything, and dont care what they do to others when they try to reach their goals. Thats why i hate capitalism.
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