Onderwerp: Crisis and opportunity

A thread about our global economy...ideas, opinions and advices regarding your personal life.

are you happy about your country growing?

My country aint growing...

Its a shit-hole and i hate it, there you go :)

The UE is a shit. It would be useful if there weren't inside fiscal paradises and a correct internal ecnomy protection from other countries that aren't placed here. (being so short)

If I were England, I will get away as fast as possible.

don't worry...england doesn t make mistake about economy problem...they will share europe advantage in the right time...;)

If I was England I would think about that very carefully. To step out of a group of countries who make a lot of mutual trade deals, can cost a lot of money on the long run when not part of this group.

I think in recent years EU is trying too hard to be one big nation. They should focus on the mutual trade deals and thats it. Of course there should be subjects where being one nation and standardised solutions work(like environment), but they should give more freedom of choice to countries in other areas. But unfortunately politicans at the top of EU are usually too ambitious about their personal gains to recognize that and being one big nation means they got more power.


About my country: I think we have got ALOT from EU in the early years and given pretty little back. Of course i have no idea how much we have given back in terms of secret diplomacy and stuff like that(military bases for example) but overall our infrastructure and business opportunities have rocketed compared to early 2000s.



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the big countries from europe are too weak, military in special and they want to be a partner, economic, military etc to us, russia, china..if europe can't handle military problems, also can't handle economic problems..this is what i believe

Europe military is strong just from the air. EU military is strong just in case if they can destroy country or kill peoples without fight. But yes you are right, in war, in land fighting europe military is really weak and our soldiers are good just for media, in real fights there are useless.

So EU should start focusing on own economics problems and own internal EU politic problems and not on destroying weaker enemies, because EU economy should be base on high-tech and services and not on looting natural resources.

army is the power behind prosper economy..

I think it is very difficult to only focus on trade deals and leave all other things out of it, like laws that have a lot to do with these trade deals. A good example is the retirement age. It is unfair to have too much of a difference because citizens who work longer can make more money and this affects the GNP, and 'richer' countries can (or worse: have to!) help 'poorer' countries while money doesn't grow on trees, etc.

But I absolutely agree the EU is not 1 country, differences are sometimes to big. And paying for nations that made a mess of the economy and don't want to change enough to prevent the same problems happening again just doesn't feel right. When this all started I disliked the whole concept, my comment back then was I didn't want to pay for problems in south Italy. South Italy is now Greece, but the problem I have with it is the same.

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I don't think it's needed to have a stronger army. The only war could be catastrophic for EU would be against Rusia, China or EEUU and it should be catastrophic for each besides impossible imo. Other wars will be winned by technology and people don't like wars today.

Other problem is the unrealistic system of the economy. If you have 100M € you don't need to work anymore, you can invest the money with 2% profit without any risk and you have enough money. This is a problem even for the rich, because the system can colapse and another "policies" with other new goverments arised with the unfair situation could make another unfair situation to try to fix it (imo it could be even worse)

everything is ours convention, it's no mathematics in economy.....a person with paranoia can't do anything, no matter how smart or other qualities that person have....like that a country isolated can't do anything, and this is a military problem

I think in recent years EU is trying too hard to be one big nation.

On the contrary, I think that if the EU was trying any less to be one nation, it would be Yugoslavia :P

army is the power behind prosper economy..

Not really, most prosper economies have little army, in absolute terms and in relative terms (military spending relative to GDP).
In fact, the US is the sole exception in that list with a prosper economy and a huge army, and it isn't precisely at the top of the list.

The reverse is typically true, though: it is much easier to be military powerful when you have a strong economy backing it. But military power feeds on totals, not relative - a huge country can have a powerful military due to its scale, even if its living standards suck.

NATO is behind us, all

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