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wdp74 naar
Bryan Robson
Him and Bort Scholes are the future lol
Konrad Pickles sounds like an old war hero.
Konrad Pickles sounds like an old war hero.
borkos007 naar
JensenElla
Good stats and conclusion
To conclude: find another league. We're no match to the Argentinians. They're at least one hand above us :))))
Yeah, now the question is what's the reason and is it possible to change it
From the top of my head I'd say that definitely not enough teams in England make profit on training & transfers - especially the former, you don't need constant trading to make good profit after season-two-three of training a 16-19yo
There are many teams [not only in England of course] that don't invest their training income into next better trainees / invest their ticket and sponsors money into old [25+] players that only lose value with each season
To conclude: find another league. We're no match to the Argentinians. They're at least one hand above us :))))
Yeah, now the question is what's the reason and is it possible to change it
From the top of my head I'd say that definitely not enough teams in England make profit on training & transfers - especially the former, you don't need constant trading to make good profit after season-two-three of training a 16-19yo
There are many teams [not only in England of course] that don't invest their training income into next better trainees / invest their ticket and sponsors money into old [25+] players that only lose value with each season
Some examples from Premier League, transfer balances of teams:
Rock bottom -84 255 929 zł
COLNE FC -107 867 358 zł
kowal203 -110 215 225 zł
Legia Będzin -118 444 860 zł
Fenland Vikings -204 774 357 zł
Polish Boston -313 138 356 zł
These teams are constantly spending more than they earn on transfers = usually in long term it means that a team only makes money on sponsors/tickets, not on training/transfers
The only 2 really good teams in this matter are
Northern Villa 649 595 934 zł
Man United 1995-96 639 994 650 zł
plus decent & understandable with stronger team Thamesmead Town FC 83 844 607 zł
and you can't really make a decent 70+ team and improve the value/quality of a team without a healthy transfer balance
less high value 25+ ready for first team players, more investments in 16-19yo players is the way to go...
Rock bottom -84 255 929 zł
COLNE FC -107 867 358 zł
kowal203 -110 215 225 zł
Legia Będzin -118 444 860 zł
Fenland Vikings -204 774 357 zł
Polish Boston -313 138 356 zł
These teams are constantly spending more than they earn on transfers = usually in long term it means that a team only makes money on sponsors/tickets, not on training/transfers
The only 2 really good teams in this matter are
Northern Villa 649 595 934 zł
Man United 1995-96 639 994 650 zł
plus decent & understandable with stronger team Thamesmead Town FC 83 844 607 zł
and you can't really make a decent 70+ team and improve the value/quality of a team without a healthy transfer balance
less high value 25+ ready for first team players, more investments in 16-19yo players is the way to go...
JensenElla naar
borkos007
You don't say!
I'm still sane enough to remember when I was arguing with you about teams buying/playing 30+ players but not training any young players. Cheating on the league and on the game. And what did I say? That at some point we are all going to suffer. And what did you say? That I'm just a bitter loser. Hmmm....
I'm still sane enough to remember when I was arguing with you about teams buying/playing 30+ players but not training any young players. Cheating on the league and on the game. And what did I say? That at some point we are all going to suffer. And what did you say? That I'm just a bitter loser. Hmmm....
borkos007 naar
JensenElla
Buying 32+ players is a GREAT way of playing with current market, in some situation it's the BEST way
you can spend your resources for young players for training without losing all the quality in first team
for the same amount of money you can get much better 32+ players than 25-29yos and they lose much less value each season during the time that you accumulate wealth
Demis Kraberidis, age: 33
club: The Evil`s, country: Hellas
value : 5 627 000 zł
wage: 92 600 zł
divine [17] form
brilliant [14] tactical discipline
height: 177 cm, weight: 72.7 kg, BMI: 23.21
formidable [11] stamina tragic [0] keeper
magical [15] pace good [7] defender
unearthly [16] technique solid [8] playmaker
adequate [6] passing unearthly [16] striker
I've got this lad for 1.2m euro, scored 28 in league already
I've also spent around 500-700k euro for each defender I've got and so far I've lost 9 goals this season
Same for midfielders, 250k and 500k euro
Thanks to this I can play for 62-64 even using some youths [1 GK, 2 mids + 1 ATT]
at the same time I train [90min friendly + 30min league / 90min league + 45min friendly] 10 youths aged between 17 and 22. I have invested around... don't know 5-6m euro in the "oldies" while I invested over 125m euro in 7 trainees [+3 own youths] - a 1 season profit from 1 training slot will allow me to completely fund the change of current "oldies" for new ones when they get too weak in 2-3 seasons
It's a great strategy that maximises the sponsors/tickets/fanclub incomes because of decent results AND allows max 96-98% training of 10 youngsters
so yeah, from my side I see no problem with playing 35yo players, I even have a 40yo winger that got 7 assists already this season
as a sidenote 34yo+ players are amazing bench options, you can get them for close to nothing and they do their job at decent level - much better strategy than some people playing their 16-22yo players for 90+90+90 each week, they don't need that, it only makes them more injury prone
If you used this strategy you'd be easily able to both stay in Premiership, get some results and it wouldn't affect your training
you would also lose less money on the non-trained players every season
btw. your team does not look to have a lot of potential judging by prices you've paid / ages / value of your u26 players, I'd honestly recommend selling them, getting a good skeleton of 32yo+ players and then investing in ten u20s [2 GK, 4 MID, 4 ATT is a good way to go]
crazy that you invested only around 900k euro - 1.5m euro or sometimes close to nothing for trainees, while you invested over 6m euro into 2 goalkeepers: easiest position to train, often losing value even when trained because of the market, draining huge amounts of cash seasonly because of higher wages
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you can spend your resources for young players for training without losing all the quality in first team
for the same amount of money you can get much better 32+ players than 25-29yos and they lose much less value each season during the time that you accumulate wealth
Demis Kraberidis, age: 33
club: The Evil`s, country: Hellas
value : 5 627 000 zł
wage: 92 600 zł
divine [17] form
brilliant [14] tactical discipline
height: 177 cm, weight: 72.7 kg, BMI: 23.21
formidable [11] stamina tragic [0] keeper
magical [15] pace good [7] defender
unearthly [16] technique solid [8] playmaker
adequate [6] passing unearthly [16] striker
I've got this lad for 1.2m euro, scored 28 in league already
I've also spent around 500-700k euro for each defender I've got and so far I've lost 9 goals this season
Same for midfielders, 250k and 500k euro
Thanks to this I can play for 62-64 even using some youths [1 GK, 2 mids + 1 ATT]
at the same time I train [90min friendly + 30min league / 90min league + 45min friendly] 10 youths aged between 17 and 22. I have invested around... don't know 5-6m euro in the "oldies" while I invested over 125m euro in 7 trainees [+3 own youths] - a 1 season profit from 1 training slot will allow me to completely fund the change of current "oldies" for new ones when they get too weak in 2-3 seasons
It's a great strategy that maximises the sponsors/tickets/fanclub incomes because of decent results AND allows max 96-98% training of 10 youngsters
so yeah, from my side I see no problem with playing 35yo players, I even have a 40yo winger that got 7 assists already this season
as a sidenote 34yo+ players are amazing bench options, you can get them for close to nothing and they do their job at decent level - much better strategy than some people playing their 16-22yo players for 90+90+90 each week, they don't need that, it only makes them more injury prone
If you used this strategy you'd be easily able to both stay in Premiership, get some results and it wouldn't affect your training
you would also lose less money on the non-trained players every season
btw. your team does not look to have a lot of potential judging by prices you've paid / ages / value of your u26 players, I'd honestly recommend selling them, getting a good skeleton of 32yo+ players and then investing in ten u20s [2 GK, 4 MID, 4 ATT is a good way to go]
crazy that you invested only around 900k euro - 1.5m euro or sometimes close to nothing for trainees, while you invested over 6m euro into 2 goalkeepers: easiest position to train, often losing value even when trained because of the market, draining huge amounts of cash seasonly because of higher wages
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Lol
Normally I have the same strategy but the fa cup has messed that up so far :(
Normally I have the same strategy but the fa cup has messed that up so far :(
JensenElla naar
borkos007
Potential for what? a yo-yo like you do?
Btw, you still didn't answer my question. Do you still admire teams like Universitatea Craiova? Still think I was talking nonsense?
Btw, you still didn't answer my question. Do you still admire teams like Universitatea Craiova? Still think I was talking nonsense?
Can I also state that my profit has been 100% fair and by no involvement by the Polish Mafia....
:P
:P
Yeah, the national cup is the hardest one to manage and make it all work, on one side it's great for training youths [90min official so they don't have to play in league], on the other hand it's hard to get through at least 3-4 rounds while training 6 or 7 youths in those games
JensenElla naar
nothis
It's a great strategy, I'm not saying it's not. I just can't have players older than 30, that's all. It's just my thing. I hope to pull juniors from my own academy and build my squad this way. I know it's impossible but after all, it's just a game. I'm sure borkos will survive knowing I have two expensive gk's. They're good plumbers, they deserve every penny.
borkos007 naar
JensenElla
Potential for what? a yo-yo like you do?
potential for achieving anything worth mentioning in this game
playing for 70+ for starters
Btw, you still didn't answer my question. Do you still admire teams like Universitatea Craiova? Still think I was talking nonsense?
I already gave you a long answer, I never said I admired any Uni Craiova, I don't even know what that is, sounds like a Romania university so maybe they are worthy of admiration
potential for achieving anything worth mentioning in this game
playing for 70+ for starters
Btw, you still didn't answer my question. Do you still admire teams like Universitatea Craiova? Still think I was talking nonsense?
I already gave you a long answer, I never said I admired any Uni Craiova, I don't even know what that is, sounds like a Romania university so maybe they are worthy of admiration
JensenElla naar
borkos007
Yeah, the national cup is the hardest one to manage and make it all work, on one side it's great for training youths [90min official so they don't have to play in league], on the other hand it's hard to get through at least 3-4 rounds while training 6 or 7 youths in those games
And the obvious has been said once again!
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And the obvious has been said once again!
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JensenElla naar
borkos007
Let's not forget the potential for patronising other users with some 'water is wet' advice.
I'd like to think you're worthy of me digging through the global thread where you called me and others bitter losers only because we were talking about parasyte teams that play for nothing else but the 3 points and contribute with nothing to the game. You even went into details about 'that team you don't even know' and praised them for how good their strategy is.
But you're not.
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I'd like to think you're worthy of me digging through the global thread where you called me and others bitter losers only because we were talking about parasyte teams that play for nothing else but the 3 points and contribute with nothing to the game. You even went into details about 'that team you don't even know' and praised them for how good their strategy is.
But you're not.
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borkos007 naar
JensenElla
Please do the digging, I'll happily read that
From what I remember I only said that there is nothing wrong in playing with old players and you were criticising my team because I have old players, even though I've invested in 1 young player more than you did in your 10 in total
I'm also happy to read what you "contribute to the game" if you have a spare minute
From what I remember I only said that there is nothing wrong in playing with old players and you were criticising my team because I have old players, even though I've invested in 1 young player more than you did in your 10 in total
I'm also happy to read what you "contribute to the game" if you have a spare minute