Onderwerp: Making money via training players

Just curious for all of the experienced players out there. I am 4 weeks into this game and trying to develop a good money making strategy by training players. Is there a concensus on which positions, on average, make the most money. I.E. I buy a 20 yr old striker with "solid" skill on pace, striker, and technique or a 20 yr old defender with "solid" skill on pace, defender, & technique. Assuming the same coaching staff and the same talent rating, could I reasonably be expected to make more money by training a striker, defender, keeper, or midfielder (or does it matter)? Thanks.
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Strikers tend to be worth more money, but "solid" skill won't get you much when you sell after training pace for a while.

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yeah I think strikers (or maybe even goalies) have the most potential for profit player for player but you can't train as many, only 6 at a time vs 10 defs or mids, also striker trainees tend to be more expensive.

If I was in your shoes and just starting out again I would go with almost all 16-17yr old trainees regardless of what position I was training, those kids pop like crazy if they're talented, and if you wait until mid-season or so the price on decent ones goes down quite a bit.

when i started i looked i took the more is more approach to training. you can't afford an awesome coach with multiple skills. i got a coach with unearthly pace training and trained 22 guys. i would by one or two good skills and train up pace. train from 17 years to 20 and hope for a random pop. then sell while still young and trainable in other skills.

buy players at the end of the season and sell players at the start.

yes I think that's what I'd do too, it looks like you just bought a defense coach so what I'd do is use what resources you have now to get the best 10 def trainees you can afford, train them for the rest of this season then sell the ones you judge are the least talented. Then use the profits from that to fill out the rest of your squad with pace trainees for next season.

But that approach is definitely not the only way, you could stick with defense training forever and still have success. The reason I would train pace when starting out is just that if you train one position, like defender, then you need to buy starting caliber vets for the positions you are not training, and with limited resources you're really not going to be able to afford anything much better than what your trainees will become in a season or two.

Also the vets you buy are only going to decrease in value so it's more or less dead money.

training players is a complete crap shoot when it comes to profit, really you just have to get lucky.

I've bought some trainees at a million and sold them for like 1.2million despite their true value should be way higher. Then the next hour I'll be watching the transfer list and I'll see a guy who looks EXACTLY like th guy I just sold and he'll have a bid of 2.4 million on him.

I've also had the opposite happen where I buy a guy at like 500K and then he gets injured twice for like 30 days and he ends up training like crap, grows 2 years older, and I somehow sell him for 1.4 million.

In my opinion it's just too all over the place. Plus trainees just keep getting more dang expensive every season and the value of your older players when you sell them keeps dropping.

that's all my complaining :) If you want to make some money just train keeper in my opinion. If you just get 2 guys at like excellent pace /excellent keeper and train them for the next few seasons to like excellent/unearthly you can make a few million on each of them

Nope, don't train keeper. Keeper prices are hellish low, and their wages are so big it negates profit. I remember the trainer of Leggett (one of the best English keepers) said that after his wages after training, and the initial buy price, he only made a couple hundred k profit.

In my opinion training top quality keepers is not the same as training keepers worth ~500k euro.Their wages are much lower so new users could make some really nice profit out of them.I've seen many new teams training keepers and developing much faster than teams that train something else.For 500k euro you can buy an 18yo keeper with excellent keeper and pace and after two seasons of training he'll be 20yo with at least divine keeper/formidable pace.Through the first season (from early 18 until he turns 19) his wage will be no more than 5k euro so that makes ~75k euro for wages.Than in his second season (from the moment he turns 19 until he turns 20) his wage will be maximum 20k so for 15 weeks that's 300k.So basically during the time you train him (2 seasons) you'll pay approximately 350-400k for wages and plus the 500k euro you bought him for that makes around 900k euro.A 21yo divine/formidable keeper is worth at least 3.5 million euro so for 2 seasons you can make a profit of ~5 million euro from 2 keepers if you have the luck to buy talented ones for a nice price.

and all the while, training keepers you've got crap players all over the pitch. and if you mess up and buy a keeper with low talent, he won't make it. Excellent keeper to Divine keeper in 2 seasons is silly to suggest. even with great talent and double training that would be almost(i dare say completely) impossible.
exc -> form 3
outsd - 3(?)
incred - 4
brill - 4
magical - 5
unearthly - 6
divine - 7
those are VERY aggresive suggestions for a pop schedule. and for you player only playing in friendlies, you can't expect that same schedule. 32 weeks... i dunno...

How about if the player has high sub level on keeper.Then he could pop in 1 week and you'll have 2 weeks extra for the schedule but in this way it also looks quite possible.And does it really matter if you wait 1-2 weeks more?I don't think it does..

Well regardless of whether it takes 2 seasons or 2 + a few weeks, the real drawback is that you need to wait at least 2 seasons to upgrade your outfield...

It might be the most profitable approach, but that's like 6 months of real time before you get to actually start playing the game.

Yeah but once you sell your first two keepers you'll always be one step ahead of the others who have started approximately when you did.Still I can't say I don't know what you mean - I've never trained keepers just because it's way too boring for me.I prefer training 10 young players and deciding which of them to play in the cup and which for the championship, waiting for pops every single week and watching them grow :)

selling keepers is, far and away, the worst plan in the game.

I don't agree with training keeper as it requires you to buy 10 outfield players, and then what happens when you get red cards or injuries..

UNTIL you figure out if/what primary skill to train, Pace is always useful. The advantages are that it trains all players who play regardless of position. So you can experiment with formations (5-3-2, 3-5-2, 4-4-3) and train all players.
After Pace, Tech is also a good skill to train for the team, however not all players use Tech as much.

Not sure if you have given your team a round of Stamina training. ONCE you get trainees in place a week of stamina will do wonders for their performance.

Pace imo isn't the best to train starting out. Where is he going to get the funds to buy 22 players with a trainable age?

I say keeper because he already starts with a team to play in the outfield, so all he needs to do is buy 2 trainees and then he can train them up and make good money

Hell right now I'm seeing 22 yr old keepers who are like solid pace/incredible keeper sell for like 2.5 million (It's ridiculous considering I got an incredible/incredible for 2 mill not long ago).

If you get any keeper up past incredible his value goes crazy so I'd really recommend that.