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Onderwerp: Champions League 2011-2012
Just did. Nothing but praise for Barça. What are you on about?
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May be true. But how many of you friends on fb are Polish? Perhaps it's possible that common point of view has been formed by culture or by a common commentator on TV? F.e. in Holland everybody loves Barça and I bet that opinion is formed because of praise on TV.
Polish TV commentators are disgusting :) They praise Barcelona [which is fine, they deserve it for their magical way of passing etc.] but they ALWAYS defend the players. For example there was a situation when Messi made a tackle from behind and didn't even touch the ball [foul, no card]. They said "it was a very bad foul, but Messi is so good that he deserves special treatment] - what the hell? when he kicked the ball at Real supporters they said that "it is understandable that he acts like this because he wants to win very hard". There is an amazing bias in favour of Barca in Polish TV, both in CL games and La Liga...
But whenever I see Marcin Wasilewski play, I can understand that you think none of these challenges are actually fouls.
?? I don't actually watch Belgian games, don't remember discussing Wasilewski's fouls :p he is a tough players, often behind the border of fair play...
I've been told that in South America diving is considered to be part of the game: outwitting your opponent and being technically superior so that they have to come in strong.
not only...they consider poisoning water [the bottles at the bench] as normal, keeping the opponents awake at hotel as normal, I even remember that one player cut opponent with a small piece of glass - different culture...still we're European and we're talking about European Cup, right? :)
Finally, I think you're also being a tad ... (no, that's not the word I'm looking for.. the word I'm looking for is very) ... VERY hypocritical there, linking Barça that direct to a referee. Have you already forgotten that a team like Juventus likes to buy their way to Serie A titels? Surely I must not remember you? :)
please read more on the subject, since 2006 a lot of new facts came out
also it was not about buying, but having influence on people that were choosing the refs for their games
in short, Milan Inter Viola Palermo Roma [and some others, don't remember exactly] did the same thing + Inter was 'choosing' refs for their CL games
the whole process was biased, Juve was refused the right to defend themselves in court etc.
having said that, Juve wasn't 100% pure, of course. still, did I ever write that I'm proud of what they've done? was I a part of this wrongdoing? no, therefore why am I 'hypocritical'...?
Polish TV commentators are disgusting :) They praise Barcelona [which is fine, they deserve it for their magical way of passing etc.] but they ALWAYS defend the players. For example there was a situation when Messi made a tackle from behind and didn't even touch the ball [foul, no card]. They said "it was a very bad foul, but Messi is so good that he deserves special treatment] - what the hell? when he kicked the ball at Real supporters they said that "it is understandable that he acts like this because he wants to win very hard". There is an amazing bias in favour of Barca in Polish TV, both in CL games and La Liga...
But whenever I see Marcin Wasilewski play, I can understand that you think none of these challenges are actually fouls.
?? I don't actually watch Belgian games, don't remember discussing Wasilewski's fouls :p he is a tough players, often behind the border of fair play...
I've been told that in South America diving is considered to be part of the game: outwitting your opponent and being technically superior so that they have to come in strong.
not only...they consider poisoning water [the bottles at the bench] as normal, keeping the opponents awake at hotel as normal, I even remember that one player cut opponent with a small piece of glass - different culture...still we're European and we're talking about European Cup, right? :)
Finally, I think you're also being a tad ... (no, that's not the word I'm looking for.. the word I'm looking for is very) ... VERY hypocritical there, linking Barça that direct to a referee. Have you already forgotten that a team like Juventus likes to buy their way to Serie A titels? Surely I must not remember you? :)
please read more on the subject, since 2006 a lot of new facts came out
also it was not about buying, but having influence on people that were choosing the refs for their games
in short, Milan Inter Viola Palermo Roma [and some others, don't remember exactly] did the same thing + Inter was 'choosing' refs for their CL games
the whole process was biased, Juve was refused the right to defend themselves in court etc.
having said that, Juve wasn't 100% pure, of course. still, did I ever write that I'm proud of what they've done? was I a part of this wrongdoing? no, therefore why am I 'hypocritical'...?
lol?
I see someone saying busquets is a diver, others that ref wasnt neutral ... but yeah, they are all praising! Wutever ... Barca got referee on crucial moment on its side ... who knows what would have happened if it were 1-1 at half time and Milan could keep playing the counter.
And half of the world loves endlesspassing and other half dont.
I see someone saying busquets is a diver, others that ref wasnt neutral ... but yeah, they are all praising! Wutever ... Barca got referee on crucial moment on its side ... who knows what would have happened if it were 1-1 at half time and Milan could keep playing the counter.
And half of the world loves endlesspassing and other half dont.
Yawn to you both. Don't feel like arguing anymore. It's draining my batteries at the start of this beautiful day. Sun is shining, weather is sweet yeah.
Have fun being frustrated. Bye :)
Have fun being frustrated. Bye :)
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Thiago Silva is the best def in the world
No, I disagree, he's World Class, but he's got a long way to go before he reaches the top.
Thiago Silva is the best def in the world, no way any Vidic, Terry, Sergio Ramos or Pique are at his level and it's just cause of tubercolosis if he wasn't the top even 4 or 5 years ago
No, I disagree, he's World Class, but he's got a long way to go before he reaches the top.
Thiago Silva is the best def in the world, no way any Vidic, Terry, Sergio Ramos or Pique are at his level and it's just cause of tubercolosis if he wasn't the top even 4 or 5 years ago
I know its hard arguing when the other side is telling no lies. And send me sun, its cloudy here!
At least he didn't tell us that we're Nazis :-)
and yeah, the weather is terrible - lot's of clouds, rain...in previous days we had even some snow, ridiculous :)
and yeah, the weather is terrible - lot's of clouds, rain...in previous days we had even some snow, ridiculous :)
wow, were skipping to 2nd Godwin law without mentionning the first one? Oo
I don't remember the ref being on Barcas side back in Milan :)
And to a certain extend its only a matter of logic that one sees more dives etc. from Barca. It's the team whose matches were seen the most through the last years (5 CL-semifinals in a row), its the team that has the most possession and therefore gets most fouled I guess.
Still, Busquets sucks and haters gonna hate :P
And to a certain extend its only a matter of logic that one sees more dives etc. from Barca. It's the team whose matches were seen the most through the last years (5 CL-semifinals in a row), its the team that has the most possession and therefore gets most fouled I guess.
Still, Busquets sucks and haters gonna hate :P
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The player i like in Barca the time being is Puyol. And as i have stated before,i hate when players hold the shirt...
From the 1st match...
From the 1st match...
guardiola he changed xavi at 70, i think maybe it wasn't good move
To be fair, Xavi was already struggling for fitness, he's currently struggling with a thigh injury.
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LEPunk [del]
Yep, Guardiola gambled a bit there (also last sub already in 80th minute). But the result proves him right.