Onderwerp: Fans expectations

Winnning the league should alwas be a success, not some 50% - expectations met crap.

Now fans expect me to end up in top half... What? Are they more forgiving besause of last seasons success... I mean expectations met. Makes no sense.

I am talking about expectations, I only mention overall mood because last seasons success should help me with the fans, but it cannot help me because I only get 50% for winning a trophy.

Yup, maybe it would be worth considering to add expectations bonus for team which wins league in the highest division in country.

It should work like that at every level

You can’t be punished for being the best team in the league and now the team that has championship expectation is unable to reach the same level of fulfillment as other 11 league teams

It is not that simple. If you are Real Madrid and you play in LaLiga 2 for some reason, winning that league is not a great success, it is a "must have".
It is also not true that such one team is punished. More teams in one league can have expectations that can be reached, but not above.

I believe expectations are completely based on the amount of fans you have. Which is good i think, that way the younger teams get more chance to grow.
So its not based on performance.

Which expectations you are talking about?
Seasonal expectations or match expectations that you can see in TV studio?

It is not that simple. If you are Real Madrid and you play in LaLiga 2 for some reason, winning that league is not a great success, it is a "must have".

well the problem is that here you can be Real Madrid playing in La Liga 1, winning the league and the fans going "meh"

1st game of the season i beat Srpska boka ( he is bot for 2 season already ( he didnt login for 2months :(( ) and he was an old club in our country. expectation in tv studio was like opponent is better but they hope they can win.. and the Level of satisfaction with fulfillment expectations: STAY on 67% like before that game.( i tought it will raise . he is no longer that strong and probably has a lot of fans thats why expectation was low vs him?

both!
Look at my competition im supposed to lose every match big time, due to my very small fanbase. Eventhough i outmatch some of my competititors easily at every other aspect of the game.

Match expectations in TV Studio are based only on fanbase since ever, that part was not touched.
Seasonal expectations are based on few parameters, fanbase, but also money the club have and about 3 other parameters more.

Expectations in TV studio have nothing to do with new mood system.

Level of satisfaction with fulfillment expectations: STAY on 67% like before that game

yes, and it will also stay at 67% at thursday no matter what result you achieve in wednesday match. That's because in week 2 of th eseason fulfillment of expectations is calculated based only on last season rating. Current season rating is worth nothing in week 2.
But it will change in week 3.

The only one thing which would change day after the match is satisfaction with recent matches. And it is already part of the overall mood.

well the problem is that here you can be Real Madrid playing in La Liga 1, winning the league and the fans going "meh"

That's why I said I would consider adding +1 to fulfillment of expectations for a winner of top league ni country (only).

But you can have that situation at every level. You're giving an example of a "too strong" team for league x, but usually there are examples of teams that are "normal" and are just the favourites to win the league - just like Real in La Liga. There can just be a team that is slightly better at level IV or V and has the expectation to win the league, without a very big advantage.

IMO it would make more sense to just set reaching the Championship expectation with +1 fulfilment since it is the max success a team can achieve during the season

btw. as a sidenote, maybe it would also make sense to add expectations for the national cup as well.

But you can have that situation at every level. You're giving an example of a "too strong" team for league x, but usually there are examples of teams that are "normal" and are just the favourites to win the league - just like Real in La Liga. There can just be a team that is slightly better at level IV or V and has the expectation to win the league, without a very big advantage.

In leagues lower than top one if you're just one who has a championship expectation that means, that you're just too strong for that league and your place in in higher one.

IMO it would make more sense to just set reaching the Championship expectation with +1 fulfilment since it is the max success a team can achieve during the season

I'm also not saying definetly "no", but I must look deeper in it, asking dev about one more thing that I'm not sure yet.

btw. as a sidenote, maybe it would also make sense to add expectations for the national cup as well.

Yes, Raul already said about it and I think it will be considered in the future. It will be always better with one more parameter.

You can add something about CC for top league winners.