Onderwerp: NEWS Sokker- big changes are coming!

But how do we know whether the mods are looking into it?

It should be investigated at least.. otherwise it is promoting other managers to do the same.

"Sokker- big changes are coming!"

I feel like Giovanni Drogo in "Il deserto dei Tartari".

But how do we know whether the mods are looking into it?

Just add this link to your bookmarks:
https://sokker.org/glowna/teamID/125815
And from time to time check it until a sign "banned" will appear next to his login.

For few months I have been checking everyday this link https://sokker.org/glowna/teamID/19623 and this is a never-ending disappointment

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Well, there's a huge difference between blatant, planned fraud and an accidental medicaments overdose. In the Slavista's case I can understand the administrators' decision.

The problem is from our WhatsApp group;)) we all know our best players. And when someone want to sell a player we can offer. This is like Transfer Advertisement Forum. For example i bought 4 ör 5 player from hım too. Because he was selling nice Turkish defenders. The important thing is both team deal, and there were not any overbids. Just before selling there can be a start price to not sell cheap. This is normal i think. economy is So important.

For example i bought 4 ör 5 player from hım too. Because he was selling nice Turkish defenders.

You bought a striker from Romania, a midfielder from Colombia, a winger from Belgium

What "nice Turkish defenders" did you buy from him exactly...? Maybe you mean from a different account or you just gave him "a nice friendly" bid so he can get more money for free.

The important thing is both team deal, and there were not any overbids

NOT true. Fenerbahce is an inactive user, he said so himself, only buys from him, overpays and it just looks like he is buying anyone he wants to sell to him.
NINE transfers in last months. THREE very high bids in last 3 days. Are you serious?

Just before selling there can be a start price to not sell cheap. This is normal i think.

Yes, it is. That's why you pay a TAX for setting a starting price. Not ask an inactive friend to give you a very high bid for free.

Ah of course... you were buying from him even when he had old team names... :)

So not 4-5 players... but 7 and the defenders were so nice that after half year of training you broke even or lost money...

Lech Steczowicz [37667816]
2022-07-13 Dengesiz Spor __BEŞİKTAŞK__ 20 400 000 zł
(2 751 000 zł)
2022-05-18 North╣London╠Reds Dengesiz Spor 11 852 400 zł
(2 705 000 zł)

a defender that at his team got +1 in pace and you decided to... double his money :) definitely not overpaid...

Is he an old friend that came back to sokker and you all decided to help him financially so he can rebuild fast? :)

what’s the bigger motive tho? are you implying that all the Turkish users just push this one guy by overpaying him a lot, to what end? create the sokker superstar manager? it doesn’t make sense. also there are cultural differences obviously, seems to be that Polish and French players are not so friendly to one another, while Turkish players have a Whatsapp group where they share good players, talents and talk the transfers thru, which looks a lot more fun to me than just put on TL and wait. It all looks on the edge of fraud when you don’t calculate the years these players have played together, and instead of fighting others (sorry, nothing personal, but only time I see you on forums, you’re always fighting people) like you they’ve made good friendships outside Sokker and have outside groups where they talk about the game.

I don’t know the life people live here, but I can totally see being overwhelmed looking for players on transfer list, trying to find out the talent and a lot of that process just gets easier with having friends, network and receiving it all on a whatsapp message.

before you attack me as well, I have no contact with any of the managers from Turkiye, never even had DMs, I just understand the cultural side of the situation, where you don’t.

Yes, it is. That's why you pay a TAX for setting a starting price. Not ask an inactive friend to give you a very high bid for free

If somebody is going to sell a player at x price and for me would be a good deal to buy him at 0.8x. I can tell the user to put it at 0 and then I bid. It kind of make a win win situation because I can buy a player cheaper and the seller will guarantee to sell the player, if he doesn't sell the player then he would lose the tax money.
When selling we need to pay tax just to set the player on TL and then selling tax.

In that way I don't see anything wrong. About being always the same users, there is another problem. Double account? That must be judge by the staff. But I want to point that these are 2 different problems

;)) he is not old user. And i think he dont need any help for finance. He has nice finance intelligence. He especially search talented players. And have a lot screens. So i think buying players from hım safe. I trust hım about players talent. And extra trainings on him.

Agree. And even for smaller countries this might be more common, because you need to be organized to improve the NT.

what’s the bigger motive tho? are you implying that all the Turkish users just push this one guy by overpaying him a lot, to what end?

definitely not all Turkish users, from what I saw on they forum the Turkish users are also surprised and suspicious about his weird very high transfers to same teams

the two teams that boost him the most [Fenerbahce Futbol Kulübü, Yeni Malatya] are probably (and from what he wrote himself) not really interested in the game before but have old accounts with a lot of money, so they just help him financially because they don't really care if they lose the money since they don't play anymore

so he's just asking them to buy the players or give him a very big starting bid

maybe he is an old users, or they just liked him, whatever the reason might be they are obviously helping him financially / abuse the market

while Turkish players have a Whatsapp group where they share good players, talents and talk the transfers thru

yes, now please tell me how this sounds:

he claims that they have a special WhatsApp group for transfers where they talk transfers, talents etc.
he claims that the Fenerbahce user is not interested in game anymore and has no time because of work

so this Fener guy has no time for game and doesn't care, but at the same time takes part in a WhatsApp group about transfers? :))

it's probably a group he created to try and sell his players to others since advertising on forum is very limited since many years...

It all looks on the edge of fraud when you don’t calculate the years these players have played together

this guy has an account since 2021, those teams played from 2007 etc. so it's not like they are friends since many years and that WhatsApp group was made years ago... it's a transfer tool and he's probably "making the transfers" on private chat with those 2 teams anyway

I agree that there is nothing wrong in agreeing a price. That's the point of agreeing the price.

The problem is when you sell all the time to same two teams and those two teams only buy from you.

And those team also give you "starting bids" and then don't follow the bidding (because they just helped him with starting bid).

These are different situations. And this "inactive" Fenerbahce guy gave him three very big bids in last days. That's not even suspicious, that is FAR beyond that.

Lech Steczowicz [37667816]
2022-07-13 Dengesiz Spor __BEŞİKTAŞK__ 20 400 000 zł
(2 751 000 zł)
2022-05-18 North╣London╠Reds Dengesiz Spor 11 852 400 zł
(2 705 000 zł)

a defender that at his team got +1 in pace and you decided to... double his money :) definitely not overpaid...

İ did not remember defenders skills but i know Lech was nice defender. And you know same players can go high price ör cheap. Maybe his first buying was cheap. There are Bargain or Robbed thread. So players price can be differrent. Sry my bad English.

But be sure, Cengiz user not have more time for transfer. İ saw hım on nights in Sokker Türkiye WhatsApp group. And probably he want talented players from his friend. He trust hım like me.