Onderwerp: NEWS Sokker- big changes are coming!

Lech Steczowicz [37667816]
2022-07-13 Dengesiz Spor __BEŞİKTAŞK__ 20 400 000 zł
(2 751 000 zł)
2022-05-18 North╣London╠Reds Dengesiz Spor 11 852 400 zł
(2 705 000 zł)

a defender that at his team got +1 in pace and you decided to... double his money :) definitely not overpaid...

İ did not remember defenders skills but i know Lech was nice defender. And you know same players can go high price ör cheap. Maybe his first buying was cheap. There are Bargain or Robbed thread. So players price can be differrent. Sry my bad English.

But be sure, Cengiz user not have more time for transfer. İ saw hım on nights in Sokker Türkiye WhatsApp group. And probably he want talented players from his friend. He trust hım like me.

I wasn't going to write anything here anymore, friends, but I couldn't resist. While the other Turkish users made a profit from the next transfer of almost all the young players they bought from me, they made a loss on only one player and this guy Borkos has arrived now and this shows. He is not talking about the player who was bought from me for 13 million TL and sold for 48 million TL. He does not mention the player who was bought from me for 17 m and sold for 22 m. Why isn't he talking about it because it doesn't work for him? This is ....

Please show the negotiations for sales of Witek, Korwin, Fellag.

All were bid by Fenerbahce in last days. Since you have a group and you discuss transfers there you obviously negotiated the transfers with Fenerbahce, yes?

Show the screens of negotiations.

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Since this title started, I have added features, talents and everything for 100 different players. Your goal is just to create chaos. I know this because you are always arguing with someone on the forum. You obviously feed off of this discussion environment. I don't want to talk to someone like you anymore. I wrote my last message two or three pages ago. I'm tired of you

So you have no transfer discussions or negotiations, what a surprise :)

You just tell him how much to bid for what player and he does that.
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I’ve been in sokker since 2010, when i was a child basically (10 years old). I’ve had numerous teams, all closed for inactivity, this team I currently have been there since 2017, right? but I’ve only played actively for a few seasons back in 2017-2018, and the past couple seasons in 2023-24, I’ve kept the account active by logging in, transfer listing my youth and that pretty much was it. after 6 years of this there was a good amount of money was accumulated so I started buying players and training again. Now, I’m giving this info because it’s relevant to understand that people don’t always play the game hardcore, and there are periods of disconnection and just keeping the team alive so that you don’t lose all the progress.

now, you’re referring to a convo in Turkish forum, while you’re using a translator, I speak Turkish like native, and I can see that you’re omitting detail because of a translation issue. what “iyi insan olmak lazim” is referring when he says that Fenerbahce team is inactive, it means that he’s currently overwhelmed with life and don’t have much time to spend here, and he is only interested in training the youth, he also mentions that the Fenerbahce owner can’t be logged in and can’t track transfers so he just bids beforehand and leaves it at that. Now, you’re asking why does he do it only with iyi insan olmak lazim, and I’m telling you it’s because that way it’s a lot easier since the talent charts and weekly progress just comes to your whatsapp instead of you being have to research and spend time on game. I’ve been thru such periods (pretty much all my sokker carreer) and I can understand this perfectly. I’d say if it’s already been reported to the admins, just stop the discussion and let them decide. I just don’t like the way French and Polish users are making assumptions using translator. etc where information can be ommitted so hard, and also generalizing it and making statements like “any Turkish friend to help sell the player” to other topics as well. It’s just against the overall friendly environment, and agitating.

borkos and his little French puppies would make great inquisitors :D
Give them admin rights and see how in a matter of weeks we have hundreds of banned users :D

Sorry, but if there is a team that is inactive, or half-active and just buys from one team and all the time gives very big starting bids to that team (because the seller talks to him on WhatsApp, sends his players and tells him how much he must pay) then for me that is not fair in this game and is against the rules. When there are 2 not really active teams buying for very big money from same team (that is a massive trader) then it becomes much more than suspicious. Especially when one of those teams sold lots of its players and suddenly started buying most players from him.

For me he is just using these inactive users to boost his transfers by setting a high price, to omit the starting bid tax and to avoid the transfer risks (doesn't matter if he fails with a transfer because he has someone that will pay what he wants).

I have also been inactive for years here. I haven't bought players from friends, I just trained whatever / my youths.

Feeling better today or are you going to start sacking players again? You should be blocked for what you did.
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you didn’t do it because you didn’t have the network (basically a group of whatsapp friends) like them. I didn’t do as well because of the same reason. The point is not everyone plays the same way, and it’s basically an open ended game where you can do whatever you want (within the rules of course) and it’s a free market. none of the mentioned players are dominating the game, just because they buy players from each other and bid each other’s players it doesn’t make them guilty, whatever you believe. you have an initial claim of fraud, send it to the admins and wait for the judgement. don’t antagonize the community (basically a whole group of users from another country) by generalizing your belief and claiming they are cheaters. even if they are cheating, what you’re doing is just confrontation without judgement. and it gets ugly.

I guess you will never change. 20 years in the game yet always arguing with everybody and shouting to ban them all.

Says an old guy who bought a player just to sack him like a child who's throwing all the toys in a sandpit. Bye.

Jax to borkos007
"it’s basically an open ended game where you can do whatever you want (within the rules of course) and it’s a free market"

Maybe it's a time to check thesokker rules?

https://sokker.org/rules


2. Sokker Rules

As an user you are obligated to obey the following major rules. In the game it is forbidden:

GENERAL SOKKER RULES

- to help other teams by bidding intentionally on their players above the market value
- to transfer players over their fair market values

Violations of these rules of Sokker, including the major rules above and breaking the registration rules above (such as attempted registrations for multiple teams), will be punished with penalties up to removing the user from the game.
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you didn’t do it because you didn’t have the network (basically a group of whatsapp friends) like them

I did. I didn't do it because I played fair and didn't want to help friends because it's not fair play towards other users that are not my friends.

The point is not everyone plays the same way, and it’s basically an open ended game where you can do whatever you want (within the rules of course) and it’s a free market.

Yes, but they brake the rules. They abuse the market and rules of the game. That's the whole point.

don’t antagonize the community (basically a whole group of users from another country) by generalizing your belief and claiming they are cheaters

Yes, the "Turkish friend" might've been misunderstood, I didn't mean "any" Turkish user like you suggested before, I meant a system of friends helping with transfers.

I was talking about networking (wp groups etc.), dude. and i’ve already mentioned “within the rules”, you’re using translator from english to french?

It's not networking, it's just using two other inactive teams to boost his transfers regularly.