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more problematic than what? than how it is now (the same) or than training defender for midfielders?
both actually
although I meant the latter, training playmaker among defenders is more problematic than training defending to midfielders (*)
using DEF setting with MID is actually not that big of a problem unless he plays as winger, then it sucks
as CM...meh, I could live with it
problem is when you train PM to defenders, and let's say you train 5 defs in PM...
you have to play 5-x-x with five defenders with MID order
= all mids have to play with def or att order
= including winger
defenders with MID order at top level will be a nightmare, especially centre backs
they will constantly try to dribble the strikers
the order also influences the likeness the player receives a pass...players look first for ATT then MID then DEF
side defenders with MID order = getting passes all the time
midfielders/winger with DEF order = getting ignored more often
I played with my left/right back with MID order last 2 seasons so believe me it's ridiculous in practice...can't imagine playing like that at top level
(*) unless you train defending to 5 midfielders, then it's the same story - 5x MID defenders, 5x DEF midfielders etc.
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both actually
although I meant the latter, training playmaker among defenders is more problematic than training defending to midfielders (*)
using DEF setting with MID is actually not that big of a problem unless he plays as winger, then it sucks
as CM...meh, I could live with it
problem is when you train PM to defenders, and let's say you train 5 defs in PM...
you have to play 5-x-x with five defenders with MID order
= all mids have to play with def or att order
= including winger
defenders with MID order at top level will be a nightmare, especially centre backs
they will constantly try to dribble the strikers
the order also influences the likeness the player receives a pass...players look first for ATT then MID then DEF
side defenders with MID order = getting passes all the time
midfielders/winger with DEF order = getting ignored more often
I played with my left/right back with MID order last 2 seasons so believe me it's ridiculous in practice...can't imagine playing like that at top level
(*) unless you train defending to 5 midfielders, then it's the same story - 5x MID defenders, 5x DEF midfielders etc.
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I played with my left/right back with MID order last 2 seasons so believe me it's ridiculous in practice...can't imagine playing like that at top level
I know that. I play in such way now, one wingback on Sunday, two on Wednesday, results are absolutely devastating for me.
I was just saying that training pm for defenders is as difficult now as it will be after training changes because in both cases they need MID order to do it effectively.
I know that. I play in such way now, one wingback on Sunday, two on Wednesday, results are absolutely devastating for me.
I was just saying that training pm for defenders is as difficult now as it will be after training changes because in both cases they need MID order to do it effectively.
You're right, I haven't played for a while and never trained DEFs actually, didn't remember that DEF order had a worse playmaker/passing training result.
I was just saying that training pm for defenders is as difficult now as it will be after training changes because in both cases they need MID order to do it effectively.
If they play in your main squad players it will be easier after the reform (for slightly worse training results), as you can play them with MID order in friendlies and then you can use them correctly with DEF order in league, now you couldn't do that.
If they play in your main squad players it will be easier after the reform (for slightly worse training results), as you can play them with MID order in friendlies and then you can use them correctly with DEF order in league, now you couldn't do that.
indeed, I forgot about that, change of that stupid rule is also important improvement of training
although, setting training will definitely be more complicated
If they play in your main squad players it will be easier after the reform (for slightly worse training results), as you can play them with MID order in friendlies and then you can use them correctly with DEF order in league, now you couldn't do that.
problem is, if we're talking about 1st team players, then suddenly they will have to play 3x 90 every week
injuries incoming
problem is, if we're talking about 1st team players, then suddenly they will have to play 3x 90 every week
injuries incoming
Two league matches is not much different from two league matches + friendly match played with safe tactics. :P
Also injuries for defenders are much rarer compared to mids and attackers, so for them it shouldn't be that bad.
Also getting their training from friendlies makes them safe from "red card in official match denying most of the training" problem.
Also injuries for defenders are much rarer compared to mids and attackers, so for them it shouldn't be that bad.
Also getting their training from friendlies makes them safe from "red card in official match denying most of the training" problem.
I can't access the new training page, will it be implemented in the next few days before thursday?
https://sokker.org/en/app/training/training-setup/
You can click the link and it should work. It's only accessible through the link above. You can't access it normally yet
You can click the link and it should work. It's only accessible through the link above. You can't access it normally yet
Question is: does it already work in-game (probably no) and will it actually work before Thursday training (wouldn't be surprised with another: no)
Honestly getting tired with these changes, what's the point in announcing a change if they're not sure they are able to make it. I have zero confidence that after implementing the reform the training will actually work as it's supposed to instead of being totally bugged if they can't even implement it on the time they set themselves couple hours earlier.
Honestly getting tired with these changes, what's the point in announcing a change if they're not sure they are able to make it. I have zero confidence that after implementing the reform the training will actually work as it's supposed to instead of being totally bugged if they can't even implement it on the time they set themselves couple hours earlier.
The menu is now in the correct language, before it used to be in Polish...
That's a difference which kind of gives me confidence it might be linked and working
That's a difference which kind of gives me confidence it might be linked and working
Are You sure?
Mine was always in English and still is in English
Mine was always in English and still is in English
Day before yesterday my menu was in Polish when I clicked the link
Sure of it
My language here is English as well
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Sure of it
My language here is English as well
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but what menu are You talking about?
if You click someone`s link like e.g. https://sokker.org/pl/app/training/training-setup it will be Polish, because of the "pl" in the URL address, but You might get link: https://sokker.org/en/app/training/training-setup which will lead to page in English obviously, but the proper link would be https://sokker.org/app/training/training-setup which will automatically set language to the one You have set and You will get page in that language (if translated)
if You click someone`s link like e.g. https://sokker.org/pl/app/training/training-setup it will be Polish, because of the "pl" in the URL address, but You might get link: https://sokker.org/en/app/training/training-setup which will lead to page in English obviously, but the proper link would be https://sokker.org/app/training/training-setup which will automatically set language to the one You have set and You will get page in that language (if translated)