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Hello everyone, I have created a new tool to know the best position on the field of players according to their skills.
It is easy to use because it is a doc spreadsheet and will be very useful for new managers...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1reuafrgPAE308I8-Ryxexo0LeCLQko6z3RBGvBGcRJ8/edit#gid=0
What does the tool contain?
-Analyze the best field position (Maximum Performance)
-Analyze their level increases/decreases after the minutes of the match.
-Analyze the player's rating according to the chosen alignment/tactic (4-4-2/4-5-1/4-3-3/3-5-2/etc,etc)
ATTENTION!!
-For proper functioning "only edit in the green boxes"
-By placing the skills of the same player in various field positions you will discover in which position he performs the most and best.
P.S-We continue working on the tool to improve it with the help of more experienced managers.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1reuafrgPAE308I8-Ryxexo0LeCLQko6z3RBGvBGcRJ8/edit#gid=0
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It is easy to use because it is a doc spreadsheet and will be very useful for new managers...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1reuafrgPAE308I8-Ryxexo0LeCLQko6z3RBGvBGcRJ8/edit#gid=0
What does the tool contain?
-Analyze the best field position (Maximum Performance)
-Analyze their level increases/decreases after the minutes of the match.
-Analyze the player's rating according to the chosen alignment/tactic (4-4-2/4-5-1/4-3-3/3-5-2/etc,etc)
ATTENTION!!
-For proper functioning "only edit in the green boxes"
-By placing the skills of the same player in various field positions you will discover in which position he performs the most and best.
P.S-We continue working on the tool to improve it with the help of more experienced managers.
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1reuafrgPAE308I8-Ryxexo0LeCLQko6z3RBGvBGcRJ8/edit#gid=0
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It needs a better translation. Shape? Annotation? Is Goal keeping or striking?
Sorry friend, Google translate!!, help for translation is accepted, thank you
Please don't take this the wrong way, but how exactly would you have any idea how to make this tool accurate.
No problem, I don't take it the wrong way, my question is if you also asked this same question to other tools!!...
The answer is very simple, try it in a friendly match and tell me how it went, it is always good that they are tested to improve them, I already did it and it didn't go bad at all... I would never do something without trying it first !!
The answer is very simple, try it in a friendly match and tell me how it went, it is always good that they are tested to improve them, I already did it and it didn't go bad at all... I would never do something without trying it first !!
Very good initiative.
Before skills were visible for the NT coach, we used an xls db scouter developed by manus.
Some funcionalities were implemented including best performance for different positions. THis is how it looked like
https://postimg.cc/qhckvQgc
Not sure if suggesting the formation is the best output as in sk you can arrange your tactic wich includes how high/low goes the defense, if they have good sideskills they can go play more with mids, and so on. But there could be something good after some brainstorming
Something to mention is that MID DEFs (not the ones polish 5xdivine) usually had the highest sumskill but they appear low in the different list due to lower value, rating, salary. This position is the hardest to discover using these sheets
cheers
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Before skills were visible for the NT coach, we used an xls db scouter developed by manus.
Some funcionalities were implemented including best performance for different positions. THis is how it looked like
https://postimg.cc/qhckvQgc
Not sure if suggesting the formation is the best output as in sk you can arrange your tactic wich includes how high/low goes the defense, if they have good sideskills they can go play more with mids, and so on. But there could be something good after some brainstorming
Something to mention is that MID DEFs (not the ones polish 5xdivine) usually had the highest sumskill but they appear low in the different list due to lower value, rating, salary. This position is the hardest to discover using these sheets
cheers
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something to addition..
Here users play 5-2-w2 which is far from reality, but now with development changes, players are expected to be more normal and not max in all skills, this will encourage profiling and probably big teams wont be using only 2 mids that much. Then I guess your idea could take more relevance season after season, if sk dont die :P
Here users play 5-2-w2 which is far from reality, but now with development changes, players are expected to be more normal and not max in all skills, this will encourage profiling and probably big teams wont be using only 2 mids that much. Then I guess your idea could take more relevance season after season, if sk dont die :P
Oops!!, I was just born and you already want to bury me?, give me some time to enjoy SK
Hi...
For your tool...use the same denominations as the game, to make it more understandable for beginners, since this will mainly be a tool for (relative) new managers.
Fit = form
Goal Keeping = keeper
Defending = Defender
Creation = Playmaker (PM)
Striking = Striker
Condition = Stamina
Speed = Pace
Passes = Passing
But next to that...You might want to explain what is the purpose of the tool? Cause I just filled in one player within the tool and nothing happened... There is no ''generate'' button or anything... Also, you need managers to fill in the green spaces, but you speak about the level of the skills. In here, everyone relates their skills to words, not numbers, so you might want to clarify that.
And in the end, you say that we need to know which position is the best for our players, but we need to place them within the position ourselves... It's a bit a long run to see what position suits the player the best if the manager needs to decide in which boxes he fills in the player. So it might be a better solution to give 8 boxes:
from stamina to striker, let the manager fill in the boxes, create an algoritm that calculates the skills, based on what is needed for a position and then come with an outcome that states in which position the player will play the best to his qualities.
I think you are making a very complicated tool here to create something that's totally unknown to the visitor.
So you say:
What does the tool contain?
-Analyze the best field position (Maximum Performance)
-Analyze their level increases/decreases after the minutes of the match.
-Analyze the player's rating according to the chosen alignment/tactic (4-4-2/4-5-1/4-3-3/3-5-2/etc,etc)
For the first point...I already explained...kinda pointless if you have to fill in the player on the position yourself.
2nd point: I have 2 boxes filled in by the tool, because of what I filled in in the green boxes, but the numbers are totally unclear to me.
In column q there appears a number: 2.928571429 and in column r: 2.5625... What does that mean?
3th point: This remains empty? What is expected of me to fill in more, than what I filled in?
It's all very unclear to what is expected of the visitor that wants to use the tool.
Don't get me wrong, cause I support the idea of extra tools for a game. But for me, the main key is user friendly... You are still a long way from there I think.
Anyways, good to see a fresh face this enthousiastic!
For your tool...use the same denominations as the game, to make it more understandable for beginners, since this will mainly be a tool for (relative) new managers.
Fit = form
Goal Keeping = keeper
Defending = Defender
Creation = Playmaker (PM)
Striking = Striker
Condition = Stamina
Speed = Pace
Passes = Passing
But next to that...You might want to explain what is the purpose of the tool? Cause I just filled in one player within the tool and nothing happened... There is no ''generate'' button or anything... Also, you need managers to fill in the green spaces, but you speak about the level of the skills. In here, everyone relates their skills to words, not numbers, so you might want to clarify that.
And in the end, you say that we need to know which position is the best for our players, but we need to place them within the position ourselves... It's a bit a long run to see what position suits the player the best if the manager needs to decide in which boxes he fills in the player. So it might be a better solution to give 8 boxes:
from stamina to striker, let the manager fill in the boxes, create an algoritm that calculates the skills, based on what is needed for a position and then come with an outcome that states in which position the player will play the best to his qualities.
I think you are making a very complicated tool here to create something that's totally unknown to the visitor.
So you say:
What does the tool contain?
-Analyze the best field position (Maximum Performance)
-Analyze their level increases/decreases after the minutes of the match.
-Analyze the player's rating according to the chosen alignment/tactic (4-4-2/4-5-1/4-3-3/3-5-2/etc,etc)
For the first point...I already explained...kinda pointless if you have to fill in the player on the position yourself.
2nd point: I have 2 boxes filled in by the tool, because of what I filled in in the green boxes, but the numbers are totally unclear to me.
In column q there appears a number: 2.928571429 and in column r: 2.5625... What does that mean?
3th point: This remains empty? What is expected of me to fill in more, than what I filled in?
It's all very unclear to what is expected of the visitor that wants to use the tool.
Don't get me wrong, cause I support the idea of extra tools for a game. But for me, the main key is user friendly... You are still a long way from there I think.
Anyways, good to see a fresh face this enthousiastic!
I actually tried this tool out with my best defender. It's not very good at 'analyzing' his usefulness. Which, is not surprising.
Hello crack, I'm going in parts because what you've written is long...
The first thing is that I am Spanish, I don't know how to write English and what I wrote is what Google Translate translates for me, however I thank you for your translation, thanks to that I have already edited it...
The second thing is to explain to the community, because they are not using the tool well, that it is not about placing a player in his "supposed" normal position, but about placing the same player in various positions on the field to find out which of them he is in. better, in addition to finding out in which other positions you can also use it if necessary...
It is evident that the managers who have tried it already know all this or at least they think so, which is not always the case... But the tool is created for the newest ones, who only see numbers on the players and do not know where to put them in. field.
As for the numbers that you have seen, in addition to those that you have not seen because it was not working well, since someone without ill will has removed the internal functions, which is why I would ask you to try it again since the problem is solved. problem...By the way, as you say that there are only letters in the players if they all look to the right of the letters "Formidable", their corresponding number "11"...
P.S.-Thank you for your contributions, I am glad that there are people who celebrate that some managers work selflessly for the community
The first thing is that I am Spanish, I don't know how to write English and what I wrote is what Google Translate translates for me, however I thank you for your translation, thanks to that I have already edited it...
The second thing is to explain to the community, because they are not using the tool well, that it is not about placing a player in his "supposed" normal position, but about placing the same player in various positions on the field to find out which of them he is in. better, in addition to finding out in which other positions you can also use it if necessary...
It is evident that the managers who have tried it already know all this or at least they think so, which is not always the case... But the tool is created for the newest ones, who only see numbers on the players and do not know where to put them in. field.
As for the numbers that you have seen, in addition to those that you have not seen because it was not working well, since someone without ill will has removed the internal functions, which is why I would ask you to try it again since the problem is solved. problem...By the way, as you say that there are only letters in the players if they all look to the right of the letters "Formidable", their corresponding number "11"...
P.S.-Thank you for your contributions, I am glad that there are people who celebrate that some managers work selflessly for the community
Please read the forum rules, what you just said in public is prohibited, you are belittling my work
No he did not...he actually had the same issue as I had, but you said there was an issue which you solved now...
He was only sceptical. He's in the same boat as you! Relatively new to the game, but very forum active and eager to find the best way to play the game.
I will try it out again, and state my comments about it here.
He was only sceptical. He's in the same boat as you! Relatively new to the game, but very forum active and eager to find the best way to play the game.
I will try it out again, and state my comments about it here.
I have not said that it was him, only because of what he has posted... And according to the rules you cannot belittle, neither a player, nor a team, nor a tool, in public...
Another very different thing is to give your opinion!!
Another very different thing is to give your opinion!!