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Onderwerp: Unearthly Trainers

2024-03-05 12:50:19
Donaldo naar Camus
Sublevles are definetly present in coaches, the evidence is there.
i.e. an Unearthly general appraisal yet some skills are below Unearthly.

Also with the 'new' % average rating for junior and assistants you can see differing %s for same general appraisal coaches.
Not sure when that came in.

Head Coaches max skill level per skill is capped at 16.00, again the 94% effectiveness indicates that.

Juniors and assistants the max skill is 16.99 presumable that would give a 100% effectiveness. Anyone got one?

You can draw the conclusion:
Unearthly coaches therefore 16-16.99 and are rated 94-100%
Magical coaches 15-15.99 and are rated 87-93%
Brilliant coaches 14-14.99 and are rated 80-86%
and so on

Is an Unearthly worth it, yes if it's a high one imo, not if it's a low one.
Don't think you'll get an Unearthly or Divine youth without a coach Uneartly-ish general appraisal. Although still rare.

One thing that always baffled me, was the race to the bottom :)
Why spend lots and somettimes 100,000's or multi million on a low magical circa 15.0
When you can purchase a high brilliant for £1.

I bought a high brilliant for a £1, he's rated 86%
That'll do until I can afford an unearthly (if ever)


edit: fixed Unearthly spelling x 3 ;)
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2024-03-05 17:49:04
Camus naar Donaldo
I have the numbers, I'll post them when I have time. I've been in hospital with my child for the last 9 days.
2024-03-05 17:52:02
nothis naar Camus
Hope you are both ok
2024-03-20 12:03:15
Camus naar nothis
I've been collecting data for the last 4 weeks but haven't looked at my formula spreadsheet in that time. Now I've actually returned to it

2024-03-20 13:50:58
nothis naar Camus
Drumroll!!!!!!!!..........
2024-03-20 13:54:54
Camus naar nothis
I could show you what I've got but it's still fairly incomplete. A lot of the data hasn't been put into graphs because there are potential variables, but I do have something. Gimme a minute.

I might take a look at that transfer comparison site, as that could help a lot if it's got trainer data on it.
2024-03-20 14:13:56
Camus naar Camus
So I've got data for 40+ coaches but at this moment, only 15 of them are usable. Once I've got a more complete picture, I can expand the limitations.

[url=https://ibb.co/HLyWq5D][/url]

I'm working on the logical assumption that all skills apart from Keeping are worth £3600. It doesn't really change the graph if that's not the case, but as Unearthlyx8's cost £36000 in wages, that split makes the most sense (7 skills at £3600, Keeping at £10800). I'll know more when I can actually get some Keeper data, which has been surprisingly hard to come by.

Wage raises are not linear. Not a huge surprise, it'd be too easy to calculate if they were.
Different skill wages increase at different rates. Also not a surprise, for the same reason.
Because of the 2 statements above, wages actually have to taper off as they near Unearthly. You can see that most clearly with Tech
2024-03-20 14:24:53
Camus naar Camus
As an aside, I had some data on what qualifies as Unearthly/Magical/Brilliant in terms of general apraisal but I deleted it because collecting data on Brilliant coaches at this stage just confuses the whole issue. What I remember quite clearly though is

Unearthly 127-128 sumskills
Magical 126-117 sumskills

and obviously it decreases as it goes down. It's a fairly simple and consistent formula.
2024-03-20 14:29:52
Camus naar Camus
upload

These are the 15 coaches I'm currently working with. What makes them simple is that they're all Unearthlyx7 (apart from the x8) and missing 1 skill. That makes it relatively easy to calculate how much that missing skill is worth.
2024-03-20 14:58:15
Camus naar Camus
Geston's site doesn't have coach data. Kind of a shame, that would have helped a lot.
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2024-03-20 16:04:40
Camus naar Camus
Ok, sub-levels within coach levels confirmed, unfortunately. I was hoping that wouldn't be the case because it complicates things, but I had planned ahead. It just means I need a graph for each skill now.

wage:60 100 $
unearth coach

unearth stamina unearth keeper
unearth pace unearth defance
unearth tecnique unearth playmaker
unearth passing unearth striker


Ummmm that ain't right. Either someone has their info wrong or that's a currency translator problem.
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2024-03-20 16:15:55
Donaldo naar Camus
100% 16.99 will be max skill
2024-03-20 16:21:20
Camus naar Donaldo
Whatever the max is, it'll be a multiplier of 5 because of how the wages are structured.

.5 is most likely, .75 is possible.

wage: 153 600 zł 38 400 $
brilliant coach
Training effectiveness as head coach:
unearthly of stamina tragic of keeper
unearthly of pace unearthly of defender
unearthly of technique unearthly of playmaker
unearthly of passing unearthly of striker

The holy grail of head coaches
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2024-03-20 22:41:54
nothis naar Camus
who has a Brilliant coach with 8 X Unearthly???????
2024-03-20 22:42:25
nothis naar nothis
sorry 7
2024-03-20 23:28:25
Camus naar nothis
It's because of Keeper. You need 127 to be Unearthly, 117 to be Magical and he loses 16 points on Keeper which leaves him on 112. It's why he's so cheap.
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