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Onderwerp: To pay 160 millions for kaka+cristiano...

2009-06-20 12:35:04
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2009-06-22 13:04:36
Way too much excessive, ppl are dying from hunger in some countrys - world crisys - and these kids (Ronaldo&Company) win in one day what we win in 2years and can trash expensive cars like we do to toilet paper....
2009-06-22 13:07:45
agree - its madness
2009-06-22 19:53:11
This kids win this huge amount of money because they sell t shirts and tickets and rights for the tv matches.

When human beings decide to pay money for watching people working on the forest then woodcutters will be rich... Until that, don´t be demagogic, please.
2009-06-22 20:51:34
fact is: no athlete is worth that amount of money...

however, show me the results and i will shut up.
2009-06-22 20:58:12
if god appears in here and says "fact is: no athlete is worth that amount of money", then I´ll say "of course, you are god, so, you are right". But you are not god...

Now, if a professional club buys these players and they have their pay back, as they obviusly spects, then I´ll repeat: don´t be demagogic.

Florentino recently said "zidane (75M) was the most economic player real madrid bought ever". I hope you´ll understand the message...

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2009-06-22 21:25:09
you're a drama queen, aren't you?

you don't need to be god to evaluate what a professional is worth on the market. it's actually a simple math exercise and about dollars and cents.

on the top of that, i myself was just quoting big phil, who commented zidane's value when the purchase was completed just like me: no athlete is worth that amount of money. i just happen to agree with him.
2009-06-22 21:30:14
I hate Real Madrid
2009-06-22 21:30:56
jaja... that´s the kind of reasoning with the only argument of "I just think it and that´s it".

In the other hand, as I already told you, these are florentino´s words: "zidane (75M) was the most economic player real madrid bought ever".

And again, I hope you´ll understand the message...
2009-06-22 21:48:31
that's exactly not that kind of reasoning. to evaluate that, an economist/recruiter needs to take into account a bunch of parameters, including trademarks, risks, available stock, etc...

not sure why you take florentino's words in such high regards, but facts are:
1- florentino's philosophy did not seem to work very well after 3 years of the galacticos
2- i bet he would never say hiring zidane was not a good deal even if it wasn't so his take here is, at least, unbiased.

therefore, between his words and the so called economy science, i would prefer to pick for the second at the moment if you don't mind.
2009-06-22 21:57:14
1- "florentino's philosophy did not seem to work very well after 3 years of the galacticos"

Of course, they only won the champions and intercontinental before those three years you mentioned... they should won three or four more champions in order to say the galacticos were a florentino´s right decision! COME OOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!! jaja...


2- "i bet he would never say hiring zidane was not a good deal even if it wasn't so his take here is, at least, unbiased"


I´ll just say: one image better than thousand words...


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2009-06-22 22:12:11
dude, call me over demanding, but, in my opinion, wining champions and intercontinental just once, after investing all the money he did, was not enough to consider it a feasible investment. i am sure that madrid supporters expect more than that at this time.

when he says zidane was the cheapest player madrid ever bought, he's obviously exagerating, and probably not only talking about titles, cups or tickets. you know, old "marketing" shows up its face again.

as i said a page ago: show me the results (numbers) and i will shut up but i do not think the first version of galacticos was a good investment. (maybe that's why i'm writing words to a sokker forum instead of getting my millions at a football club)
2009-06-22 22:22:23
"in my opinion, wining champions and intercontinental just once, after investing all the money he did..."

The money invested was recovered by the sales. I thought that was obvius at this point...
Anyway, if you think champions and intercontinental are not enought for real madrid supporters, then ask them now or ask any other supporters in the world about that. Lots of the bests clubs in the world don´t get the champions after decade of investment. Florentino´s team made it very quicky IMO.


"when he says zidane was the cheapest player madrid ever bought, he's obviously exagerating..."

You seem not to understand. Economic is different than cheapest... anybody who says zidane is cheap, is stupid. E-CO-NO-MIC is the word... you still don´t understand the message behind economic word I think.

"as i said a page ago: show me the results (numbers)"
jaja... you are the one saying it was not a good investment. So, it seems tome like you are the one who has to show something...

As I told you, that florentino´s champions and the intercontinental, that amazing soccer they played... well, that´s enough for me.
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2009-06-22 23:25:44
in other words, you just "think it and that's it" and who disagrees does not "understand the message".
2009-06-22 23:32:30
I have to say that you are right on this one rac2, you clearly show some arguments that are backed up with facts, while Bilarnotti can only say that 'you don't understand the message if you do not know what economic means'. For the record, that doesn't necessarily mean that I agree with your arguments though ;)
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2009-06-23 11:56:46
well, I tried to show you my arguments. The way this investment works, the way they get the money back and the way they still make diference by winning the championships.

But you finally decided to act like a child... then please go and find the word "economic" in the dictionary... (it´s different than cheap, remember!)


luck!
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